Ok. I was knocked off for a bit. I was able to see groups kinda. I never got it to load entirely. A group for tech would be good, great even. Right now I have no transpo but can pedal to VFW. I need to get down there to pay dues any way. I'll ask the old man or the tar bender if anyxode talkers come in. Being an Ironworker in Az I worked with some. A few. Navajos. They where cool with me. Indians aren't always cool with whites but most of them where cool with me. Especially after they got to know me